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Post by DreamDangerously on May 21, 2006 13:24:35 GMT
I actually thought spin off as well, maybe a mini series.
I agree that it wasn't the best episode but to be honest I don't think any of the Doctor Who episodes bare up to being over scrutinised. At the end of the day it is Saturday night entertainment. I think only the Stephen Moffat episodes have contained anything resembling subtlety plot wise. It was enjoyable though and that's the main thing. I liked the bit with the bride as well, surprisingly touching.
I think the Battersey complex blew up because they Cybermen were blowing up, they had that shot of the classic head explosion. Basically if you had hundreds of cybermen doing that, it would probably be enough to ingite the equipment as well...the incinerators et al.
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Post by Fassbender Fan on May 27, 2006 18:52:19 GMT
I found this evening's episode a bit.well.rubbish. It hearkened back to the good ol' days of Ecclescakes because there was more than a few dull episodes, it's weird because there are some which I absolutely love and completely engross me and others just sort of bring things down a bit if you know what I mean Rose is getting more annoying as the weeks go by though but hurray for her face getting sucked off - at least she couldn't speak (or well breathe...) for a while  Also how cliche and twee was their lil reunion - where is she?-spots her in the crowd-runs-hugs...yawn |
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Post by DreamDangerously on May 27, 2006 19:10:00 GMT
I agree...it was all a bit twee and predictable this episode.
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Post by matt on May 27, 2006 19:29:32 GMT
I liked it. Being a story more about fighting off an old era and welcoming an new one via Tommy and his dad and using the introduction of the television as a means to explore this.
While thankfully the Doctor got a chance to shine in an episode where he's usually forced to cope with Rose sharing the plot - Tennant's reactions to Rose's situation was great and his impulsive actions done effortlessly.
The script crackled with some excellent lines as well. Highlight for me? This little gem:
"It's never too late, a wise man once said. I think it was Kylie."
PLus it was a nod to an event I would've loved to experience which sadly I doubt will be emulated come the next coronation...
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Post by DreamDangerously on May 27, 2006 19:47:57 GMT
oh I completely understood the themes and the text but I just didn't enjoy it on a fundamental level. Keep in mind of course that Doctor Who on bad form is still a cut above most shows.
You couldn't fault the performances from anyone really it just didn't really appeal to me as story. It wasn't working for me. Plus the Doctor and Rose....hmm...we get one worrying the other is dead and the 'one can't live without the other not so sub subtext every week. David Tennant is an excellent performer who pulls it off brilliantly it's just that aspect of their relationship is so tired now. I would like to see something happen that really alters it or challenges it somehow.
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Post by Fassbender Fan on May 28, 2006 6:41:59 GMT
I completely agree, that was my main problem with the episode.
I think the reason I enjoyed The Girl In The Fireplace so much was the fact that the Doctor for once wasn't all about Rose, he had another woman in his sights. Also having Mickey in the tardis took away some of the cheesey moments where Rose is usually just gazing at her doctor.
I love Dr Who don't get me wrong but it can easily fall into the trap of repeating itself
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Post by fenris on May 28, 2006 12:04:17 GMT
Yesterday's episode reminded me of the U.S. series Dark Skies, in which each week an alien plot would be tied in with a major real-life event. In fact, there was a very similar Dark Skies episode where the aliens tried to hypnotize millions of Americans by interfering with the broadcasting of the Beatles' famous appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show.
I agree that the whole Doctor/Rose relationship is becoming tiresome. I think the reason her role is being emphasized far more than any previous companion is a reflection of how society and audience expectations have changed in the decade and a half since the McCoy era of Doctor Who. The idea of the female character just acting as companion and sidekick is now regarded as dated and mildly insulting - she's got to be seen as an equal.
In addition, Rose is the all-important audience-identification figure for the entire generation of younger viewers who are unfamiliar with the original Doctor Who. Although the thought that there are thousands of youngsters who identify and emphasize with such a self-obsessed, stroppy, sulky little chav gives me serious cause for concern.
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Post by DreamDangerously on Jun 5, 2006 16:11:45 GMT
I have to say, I enjoyed this weeks episode. (ignoring the excruciatingly bad opening scene of the Doctor and Rose's jolly joke - literally I felt embarassed and I was watching on my own!) I liked the slow build to the story and the kind of Event Horizon-ish feel to it. I'm curious to know if it's an alien or if it really is Big Red himself down there in the pit.
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Post by matt on Jun 5, 2006 16:47:18 GMT
Unless it's an alien who's taken itself to mimick the ideals and guise of The Devil using mythology. Like the Gou'ld in Stargate...
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Post by DreamDangerously on Jun 5, 2006 17:29:40 GMT
well that's what I was thinking.
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Post by matt on Jun 5, 2006 17:49:28 GMT
Stoopid aliens. They take our mythology (Stargate) and fictional TV programmes (Galaxy Quest).
I'm waiting for aliens to base their culture on Playboy TV. That'll be the day
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Post by fenris on Jun 5, 2006 19:56:18 GMT
This latest episode reminded me of a couple of earlier Doctor Who stories: 'The Daemons' from the Jon Pertwee era, in which the Doctor had to deal with the awakening of an incredibly powerful demon-like alien called Azal, who'd been buried beneath a church for several hundred years; and 'Pyramids of Mars' from the Tom Baker era, which was about Sutekh the Destroyer, an alien so heinous and formidable that the ancient Egyptians knew him as Seth, the God of Evil. The Doctor had to prevent him from escaping from behind a forcefield on Mars where he'd been trapped for several millennium.
Incidently, Sutekh (whom many long-time Doctor Who fans still regard as the best villain to ever trouble the Doctor) was played by Gabriel Woolf, and he's providing the voice of 'The Beast' in the current two-parter.
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Post by DreamDangerously on Jun 10, 2006 18:52:17 GMT
I enjoyed that, except another cringe inducing Torchwood reference. How flipping awesome did the Beast look!
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Post by matt on Jun 10, 2006 20:15:22 GMT
*Finally* The Doctor got some decent stuff to do with Rose blocking everything!
However - with the Torchwood reference this week; I actually found it interesting when you take it into context this time: a secret organisation investigating a black hole?
Something else: When the hell are we going to see the Face of Boe again?
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Post by DreamDangerously on Jun 10, 2006 20:45:38 GMT
absolutely!
I know Torchwood was interesting in context but because they've name dropped it so much it's become irritating to hear.
I'm thinking the Face of Boe will show up again at the end...sounds like there's Tyler death on the horizon...hurrah!
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